Archive for the ‘Spey’ Category
I have great affinity for the Nautilus Reels, but before Nautilus – nearly 20 years ago – I start with Loop-Danielsson “Traditional” Reels. 20 years ago these were the first large arbour reels, reels that were made for fish that ran long distances – such as Steelhead.
- Loop and Danielsson split their business partnership (under unkind terms).
- Sealed drags has become common place – great for saltwater.
- Danielsson sells direct – in effect a great reel at a great price.
So this is my new Danielsson HD 9-13.
Below the reel is spooled to handle a spey rod or the salt (bonefish), with 50m of 30lb 3M orange dacron, 150+m 20lb 3M green Dacron backing and a 10m of 30lb transition. The 10m marks the transition from fly line into backing and I use a large loop (perfection loop knot) to allow for quick change of fly lines – whether it is scandi heads on my spey rods or lines for saltwater (bonefish).
I have played with the reel and I am first to admit a real positive review can only come after a year of hard use, but given the love shown by others I respect and my good history with Danielsson, I am happy to say this is my reel of choice.
I am not getting any use out of the following items, so I might as well put them up for sale. Prices are on the SpeyClave Board, as per board rules.
First up, is a G.Loomis GLX Roaring River 15′ 9-10 Rod. A very fine rod and the very first spey rod that I really like. But, as progress in my skills and learning, I decided to keep to a Scandi style (versus this long line), but more significantly a lighter line.
I would contend this rod is great for large rivers and when pursuing King or Atlantic Salmon. A new Loomis Long-Belly 15′ rod currently retails for over 1000 USD, while a TFO 2H is over 460 USD. Posted sales in 2016 had prices from 400 to 600 USD.
In support of this rod are 2 Delta Spey Lines – Long Belly with Tip and Standard. These lines had light usage and in good condition. In fact, I never did use the tips on the long, other than the floating line. Delta Spey lines currently sell for 130 USD without tips, and I do not believe they offer a version with tips (except the UltraSpey at 270 USD).
Sales in 2016 provided 40 to 80 USD, top price for the multi-tip.
Up next, thought less loved is a “seconds” reel. In my learning phase, I kept my forward arm choked down, so a heavy reel was desired. As many people, expressed their admiration for pawl-click reels, I had “a go” with this, but have decided to keep with my closed drag Nautilus reels enabling palming.
I found the start-up inertia high, so I reduce the springs (which are included), but also note there was an imperfection on the surface of the interior plate that I reduce.
This reel weighs 15.9oz empty, and believe it to be a Symmetry, which currently retails for 500 USD new.
Last are almost new Ambush lines. Water casted with my customer build fiberglass James Green. After some testing, I decided to go with the OPST, so my experiments are your gain. New lines retails for 80 USD, and appears 2016 sales on the board was 40-50 USD/
- Paypal or Money Order. I will take the Paypal fees.
- Buyer pays for shipping, and shall define terms – signature, insurance, et cetera.
- I will ship by Friday of the week sold
- Buyer may return for refund, minus fees taken by me.
An update on my setup with James Green DH 7wt 10′ setup. In the last few months, I have moved over to OPST Commando Heads. With a Snap T Spey Cast and the short aggressive head it is allowing me to get the fly, with the trees on my back.
You need a relaxed cast, and I still amazed at how light the rod is, so it is fun rod for small crowded rivers.
Right now I have a 350 gr line + MOW Medium Tips, but I am looking to order and try a heavier line (I have tried lighter lines, but the 350 is the best fit of the lines I do have on hand).
Today, in balancing the rod, I went with the lightest reel I have – Loop (Danielsson) 3W – and added on a RIO VersiTip (no id unfortunately) which I had with my Scandi 7wt setup to a Wulff Ambush 9wt 390gr line and started casting some nice tight loops. I was happily surprised at how light the setup is!
Post Publish Note – One website lists the Wulff 9wt as 390grains, but Wulff themselves its the weight as 350grains. I think I have two distinct but similar choices to try:
- 9wt Ambush with RIO 10′ InTouch 7wt, getting me to 425grains
- 10wt Ambush with Airflow PolyLeaders (10′ probably) getting me to 430+grains.
Lawn casting last night, I was thinking I would want a longer head and less weight, but today it was good. Real good and using a light reel was great! In talking to James last night, his suggestion is to try a line of 425 grains – or better stated, get 425 grains out past the tip. So the Ambush 9wt with tip may be best, but I may be looking to work in a 10wt line to compare.
I did not buy-build this rod to throw long, but to fish and catch steelhead in tight quarters, where 60′ is the pool against the bank across the river and trees are everywhere. This appears to suit this just fine and I am happy! As far as the cast – slow down and at the end of the forward cast, give it a little snap forward and you should a tight loop to the bank on the other side of the river bank.
And the short fiberglass blank will help with getting that fish to y feet.
Some more practice, maybe a little tweaking, but what is left is fine tuning.
The rod with the reel.
With some measurements below.
The fore-handle handle length is right for me, with my cast movement (more scandi under-hand versus a traditional top hand caster), I am finding, I am placing (extending) my fore-thumb naturally from 15.5″ to 17″. A shorter for handle would not be good (and longer would be irrevelant).
The knife represents the balance point, probably a little too far back and noting I have the lightest reel on a down locking reel-seat, I could have moved the reel up by 0.5″ to 1″ inch with a little more cork on the aft grip. Never-the-less, it holds well and I get to use the lightest reel possible, which is great.
Last note in this post, I like to keep the cork simple. In this case, I did add some flourish with some burl cork at the ends, but under my hands, I just want cork. Cork is good in the cold, the wet et cetera, so in the middle of the grip, keep it simple, keep it cord.
I used the rubberized cork, which does provide weight and some real structural support, which is nice at the reel seal entry and forming the butt. I remain undecided of the flourish with the burl cork is of any gain. (I used the dark burl for some single hand fly rods as end pieces though).
Quick construction notes (from my memory):
- A James Green 7wt 10′ Fiberglass Rod – “re-purposed” into a short two-hand spey.
- Maple dowel insert in bottom to provide strength on the underhand
- Cork individually drill and glued onto blank (then turned on blank)
- Lemke Real Seat, with Ron (Southwest) providing a Cherry Burl Insert (maybe wrong on wood)
- Joe Arguello Agate Stripping Guide
- Silk Thread – with two trim colours
- Al’s Bamboo Color Lock
- Writing with Faber Castel Pen on First Layer of Epoxy, roughen with 1000 grit sandpaper
- ProKote Epoxy – 3 thin coats.
Lawn casting says the rod is slow (no surprise), and I will need to spend some with it before I have completed balancing it with the best reel and line. Right now, I have a Wulff Ambush 9wt on it, but I am thinking a longer head 8 wt would be a better choice.